Problem:
I just got the new xhorse condor ii key cutting machine and had a problem with the new m5 clamp as B side is not gripping the keys correctly.
Solution:
Pay attention to the position of the clip key, not in the bottom groove.
The key clip is in the wrong position.
Xhorse automotive locksmith key cutting machine comparison:
| Item | Xhorse Dolphin XP005 | Xhorse Dolphin XP005L (Dolphin II) | Xhorse Condor XC-mini Plus | Xhorse Condor Mini Plus II (Condor II) |
| Price(USD) | 2250$ | 1950$ | 2700$ | 3299$ |
| Weight(Net) | 15kg | 13kg | 18kg | 19kg |
| Weight(Gross) | 18kg | 18.5kg | 22.9kg | 24kg |
| Size | 315x218x270mm | 390*220*270mm | 265*362*301mm | 413 x 250 x 300mm |
| Power | 100W | 160W | 200W | 200W |
| Motor Rotation Speed | 10000-13000RPM | 12500rpm | 9000rpm | 10000rpm |
| Screen | × Small screen showing battery and Bluetooth status | Angle adjustable 5-inch LCD touch screen 1280*720 | Angle adjustable 7-inch LCD touch screen 1024 x 600 | Angle adjustable 7-inch LCD touch screen1280 x 720pixels |
| WiFi | × | √ | × | √ |
| Bluetooth | √ | √ | √ | √ |
| LED indicator | × | √ | × | √ |
| Protective Shield | Yes, not enough | Yes, good | Yes, good | Yes, good |
| Update | Database update in APP, firmware update via Xhorse update kit
| Online Update via WiFi connection
| Online Update, support offline file update. | System, app, software, database, firmware update within machine, without upgrade kit on PC (update guide) |
| Clamp
| M1, M2 in default M3(optional) M4(optional) | M5(=M1+M2) in default M1 (optional)M2(optional) M3(optional) | M1, M2 in default M3(optional) M4(optional) | M3, M5 clamp in ndefault M1 (optional) M2(optional) |
| Manipulation | Phone APP/Key Tool Max | Phone APP/Standalone | Phone App/Standalonen | Phone App/Standalone |
| Built-in battery | √ 3 hours to fully charge. Full battery cut up to 30 keys | √ 3 hours to fully charge. Full battery cut up to 30 keys | × | × |
| All keys lost | √ | √ | √ | √ |
| Built-in database | × | √ | √ | √ |
| VVDI binding | √ | √ | √ | √ |
| Offline operation | × | × | √ | √ |
| Key Blank Engraving | × | × | × | √ |
| Optional key Recognition | √ With key reader | √ With key reader | √ With key reader | √ With key reader |
| Hexagon bar wrench
| 2mm+4mm 3mm hexagon bar wrench, 3mm hexagon bar wrench,6mm hexagon bar wrench | 2mm hexagon bar wrench, 4mm hexagon bar wrench | 2mm hexagon bar wrench | 2mm+4mm 3mm hexagon bar wrench, 3mm hexagon bar wrench |
| Warranty | 1 Year, battery 6 month | 1 Year, battery 6 month | 3 years | 3 years |
Which one to choose?
Easier to carry out, if need to cut 10-15 keys at once, you go for dolphin because it is battery operated.
If you need a protective shield and touch screen, then go for Dolphin II.
If don’t want to pay $300 for a screen, pay more 50 bucks to get key tool max plus xp005.
A larger screen, offline operation. However, XC-Mini Plus doesn’t have a built-in battery so hard to take it out.
You can see the biggest difference is that it allows you to cut keys without network support. It’s very useful, but the price is high.
For people who are interested in the Android system, standalone operation including software/firmware directly update in the machine, new Key Blank Engraving, go for Condor II instead.
Would like to learn the differences between dolphin ii vs xhorse condor xc-mini plus ii key cutting machine. Any input?
First of all, check a table comparison, then major differences and the summary below.
| Item | Xhorse Dolphin II (Dolphin XP005L) | Xhorse Condor II (Condor XC-Mini Plus II) |
| Image | ||
| Database | shares same key database, support car, motorcycle and household keys. | |
| Touch screen | 5-inch angle- adjustable capacitive touch screen. | 7-inch angle- adjustable capacitive touch screen. |
| WiFi | Yes | Yes |
| Bluetooth | Yes | Yes |
| Built-in battery | Yes | No |
| Net weight | 13kg | 19kg |
| Gross weight | 18.5kg | 24kg |
| Power | 160W | 200W |
| Protective shield | Yes | Yes |
| LED indicator | Yes | Yes |
| Parameter | 390mm*220mm*270mm | 413 x 250 x 300mm |
| Offline operation | No | Yes |
| Manipulation | Phone App/Key Tool Max/Standalone | Standalone |
| Optional key Recognition | Yes (works with key reader) | Yes (works with key reader) |
| Clamp | M5 clamp in default, Clamp M1, M2, M3, M4 optional | M3 and 5 clamps in default, Clamp M1, M2, M4 optional
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| Update | Firmware, database update via WiFi | System, app, software, database, firmware update within machine, without upgrade kit on PC (update guide) |
| Warranty | 1 year | 3 years |
Database
Dolphin II and Condor II shares the same key database, support car, motorcycle and household keys.
It is mainly for car keys, only a few motorcycle and household keys are on database.
Due to the two new dimple cutters (internal/external), condor ii can decode and cut multi-lock dimple keys so we can personalize our keys.
The key blank engraving function allows users to add and delete texts and pictures, resize and turn them, to perfectly design a unique key.
Check How to Engrave a Key Blank with Condor II
xhorse condor mini plus ii supports offline operation like the previous condor mini plus.
The network is not always movable, so this function could be a highlight.
But condor still does not have a built-in battery, so if you want to take it out, you may prepare a van to power it or choose the new Dolphin XP005L.
Both come with M5 (M1+M2) clamp, clamp m5 is really handy, don’t have to install and uninstall during procedure, just rotate it to select side A/B and lots of guys also appreciate this clamp update.
Condor Mini Plus II comes with M3 clamp in default as well. It could save money a lot.
Both have touch screen control, can also be controlled by phone app.
Condor II has a large screen and works faster (8-core Processor and high resolution).
Dolphin II is light weight and can be carried out easily.
1pc x Machine
1pc x Clamp M5 and link stopper
1pc x Clamp M3 ( optional )
1pc x Clamp M4 ( optional )
1pc x 1.5mm cutter
1pc x 2.5mm cutter
1pc x Probe
1pc x 2mm+4mm 3mm hexagon bar wrench
1pc x 3mm hexagon bar wrench
1pc x 6mm hexagon bar wrench
1pc x Protective bracket
1pc x Power adapter
1pc x 1.5m Power cord of Mainland China standard
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of UK standard (optional)
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of US standard (optional)
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of EU standard (optional)
1pc x Built-in battery (optional)
1pc x Brush
1pc x Product qualitty certificate
1pc x User manual
Xhorse Condor II Package List
Condor II Package:
1pc x Machine
1pc x Clamp M5 and link stopper
1pc x Clamp M3
1pc x Clamp M4 ( optional )
1pc x 1.5mm cutter
1pc x 2.5mm cutter
1pc x Probe
1pc x 2mm+4mm 3mm hexagon bar wrench
1pc x 3mm hexagon bar wrench
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of UK standard (optional)
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of US standard (optional)
1pc x 1.5 Power cord of EU standard (optional)
1pc x Brush
1pc x Product qualitty certificate
1pc x User manual
Summary:
It all depends on what you need.
same database, same feature.
First of all, you need to know which one is portable or not. When you arrive at a site and need to cut 10-15 keys at once, you go for dolphin ii because it is battery operated.
Condor ii would be a nice choice in the long run.
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